tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post5225674103982778675..comments2024-03-10T10:05:51.113-07:00Comments on misswhistle: Filmmaker Allison Anders on Polanski: Art Is Not EnoughMiss Whistlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11103831095827005334noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-81711311614842693402021-02-02T01:34:41.884-08:002021-02-02T01:34:41.884-08:00دهان بجدة
دهان بجدة يستخدم دهانات لاتكس والتي تحتا...<br /><a href="https://www.amjadalkhaleej.com/painter-jeddah/" rel="nofollow"> دهان بجدة</a><br />دهان بجدة يستخدم دهانات لاتكس والتي تحتاج للتخفيف بالماء قبل الإستخدام ويوجد منه أنواع لامعه بدرجات متنوعة وكذلك الأنواع المعتقه ويتم الإستخدام حسب رغبة العميل وهو من أكثر الأنواع المستخدمة بدهان الأبواب والنوافذ الخشبية وذلك بسبب سعره البسيط ويوجد منه مجموعة من الألوان والدرجات التي تناسب جميع العملاء ولا يحتاج لطبقات كثيرة لإظهار النتيجة المطلوبة ويصبح لامع وذو مظهر مميز من أول طبقة <br />seocomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10732118579448930253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-26356916203269004972017-06-03T08:16:44.177-07:002017-06-03T08:16:44.177-07:00______________________________________
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Of all the horros in this world, there is nothing more vile and inhuman than pedophilia. Three of my closest friends were victims of this disgusting act all by members of their own family. Abuses of every kind break a soul down and it takes years or a lifetime to gain a sense of who you are, to find some kind of peace inside yourself. The acts of abuse and the damage it causes are incomprihensible, and apparently impossible to stop. <br />Allson Anders has lifted herself above the heartache and found her blessing in the beautiful films she has created. <br />Thank you so much Allison....may you have great happiness and peace now and always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-9202700223184586392009-10-10T03:53:09.075-07:002009-10-10T03:53:09.075-07:00It is never alright to have sex with a 13 year old...It is never alright to have sex with a 13 year old child, or a 15 year old child as reportedly the age of his next victim, whom he actually helped become a star. Call it what you will... rape, sex, downpayment on a film career... it is NOT alright. <br />A child can never give consent for a person in power to have sex with her. That is a given! If you think otherwise, take a good hard look in the mirror. Allison Anders is spot on in her article. It is about time someone stopped this nonsense of old men believing they deserve sex with young children. <br />It is madness!Yvonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01736835253366530292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-822726523259174492009-10-09T20:15:33.223-07:002009-10-09T20:15:33.223-07:00The charge was not rape. The transcript at one poi...The charge was not rape. The transcript at one point says she did not remember what happened, and at another point says she said no. She has later said that he did not intend any harm. All along he has said it was consensual. There were people in the house during the event, and she even called her mother. Does this tell us what happened? NO. But it certainly isn't clear that he raped her, and it is very telling that people insist THEY know what happened, insisted she was raped, and believe her (one version, anyway) in a he-said she-said situation. (Yet, they don't even want to follow what the victim herself wants.) The crime we do know about is unlawful intercourse with a minor, and he did fulfill the plea bargain agreement for that crime. All I can say is that I hope none of these commenters ever get picked for jury duty, or get accused of rape. Anders is a holier-than-thou egomaniac and people are eating it up. People want blood to prove how moral they are, but morality doesn't come from blood, it comes from reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-63770093630774955972009-10-07T08:23:44.835-07:002009-10-07T08:23:44.835-07:00I saw this on the recommendation of a reader at my...I saw this on the recommendation of a reader at my site Salut! after I had posted my own thoughts as journalist, father (of daughters) and believer in natural justice:<br /><br />http://www.francesalut.com/2009/10/on-not-getting-close-to-polanski.html<br /><br />There is little I would disagree with. It is expressed with clarity and restraint, and makes the essential point that great art is no reason to overlook the wrongdoings of the great artist.<br /><br />But I am not, if I am honest, a great admirer of the more vicious - I would say tabloid - tendencies of the US justice system. I would say to the Swiss "go ahead and extradite him" but only if satisfied he will not be treated in a more draconian fashion than if facing a court in Zurich or Lausanne. Tell me you'll lock him up and throw away the key, and I part company with all those clamouring (otherwise rightly) for him to be brought to justice.colinhttp://www.francesalut.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-71056881812905094902009-10-06T11:54:41.533-07:002009-10-06T11:54:41.533-07:00Dear Allison Anders,
Thank you for your post. I ...Dear Allison Anders,<br /><br />Thank you for your post. I have found the support of Polanski to be horrifying - both as a parent of a young girl and as a former young girl myself (and that is what a 13 year-old is). What kind of people can support the rapist of a child? My god, the man has a daughter - how would he feel if some forty-three year old raped her?<br /><br />Shame on the people who support him. And sadly, I do feel the need to boycott all of their future work as I do not want any of my money to go to them.<br /><br />(PS-I love your movies!)<br /><br />J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-10987513440910806452009-10-06T09:10:48.322-07:002009-10-06T09:10:48.322-07:00Anonymous of October 4, 2009 at 6:53 PM: It is cle...Anonymous of October 4, 2009 at 6:53 PM: It is clear that it WAS violent.<br /><br />Ms. Anders, and misswhistle: <i>Thank you.</i>Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04900290168741286643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-20426527832694457752009-10-05T11:16:28.960-07:002009-10-05T11:16:28.960-07:00Great post!! I really cant se why people think he ...Great post!! I really cant se why people think he shouldnt face his crimes. Because he is an old man now? A child is always a child!Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-65141736713631132182009-10-05T09:53:12.902-07:002009-10-05T09:53:12.902-07:00Bravissima! You give vocabulary to Truth. Thank yo...Bravissima! You give vocabulary to Truth. Thank you for the social re-direct, Allison. xo RubyRuby Friedmanhttp://www.rubyfriedman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-70265653759523353832009-10-05T00:41:18.379-07:002009-10-05T00:41:18.379-07:00To Anonymous: It is not clear what happened?
What ...To Anonymous: It is not clear what happened?<br />What happened, according to the transcripts and Polanski's own admission, is a man who was over forty asked a child if she wanted her picture in French Vogue (He was famous so he didn't have to resort to abduction, like Phillip Garrido). After baiting her, he then set about systematically to seduce her. These are the actions of a pedophile.<br />The success of his movies has nothing to do with the vile nature of his actions. To excuse him is to condone raping a child. But Roman Polanski is guilty of two heinous crimes... the second being fleeing justice.<br />How can anyone condone this man's actions? Had the world not known his movies would we really miss them? <br />Please reserve your sympathy for a young child who was a victim, pure and simple.<br />The entertainment business is ripe with this type of behavior from celebrities. It is time for sex crimes to be exposed and stopped.Yvonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01736835253366530292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-40171918783691307762009-10-04T20:38:57.513-07:002009-10-04T20:38:57.513-07:00What a wonderful post . Thank you Allison Anders. ...What a wonderful post . Thank you Allison Anders. I was appalled by Marinas documentary which suggested that the price we pay for Polanski's genius is to let him get away with raping a 13 year old. The world protests Polanski"s arrest while there is such outrage over Dave Letterman having an affair with a work colleague! What is wrong with this picture I ask myself?Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15449908147962561229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-78479600607453176312009-10-04T19:41:28.888-07:002009-10-04T19:41:28.888-07:00Finally, a voice for the victim, not just Polanski...Finally, a voice for the victim, not just Polanski's victim, but all who have gone through the nightmare and trauma of sex crimes. In this celebrity-driven, lobe-sided world, we should all the more be adamant that Justice be blindfolded, and her Scale should never be tipped by popularity, social power, or achievement, artistic or otherwise.<br /><br />I come from the link at The Errant Aesthete... and I thank you most sincerely for this post.Artihttp://rippleeffects.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-35950299943668606132009-10-04T18:53:32.885-07:002009-10-04T18:53:32.885-07:00Oh spare me all the self-righteousness. His furthe...Oh spare me all the self-righteousness. His further punishment helps no-one. And if you look at the details of the case, it is not that clear what happened, but it is clear that it was not violent. Let it go people, everyone else has.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-80906024854035051102009-10-04T05:44:29.496-07:002009-10-04T05:44:29.496-07:00Thank you for your clarity.
My 13 year old son is...Thank you for your clarity.<br /><br />My 13 year old son is an actor, by his own choosing. <br />He is currently rehearsing for a small film. I see the absolute trust and surrender that is necessary for the process.<br />If a director has morality issues, I could see the opportunity for abuse given the trust involved, and the inexperience of youth. We live in Paris where we have seen Mr. Polanski out an about over the years.<br />I am in complete agreement with you. Thank you again.DHD Design Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16704876197995973544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-51593799481804449422009-10-03T21:06:03.884-07:002009-10-03T21:06:03.884-07:00Having been a victim of sexual, verbal, mental, an...Having been a victim of sexual, verbal, mental, and physical abuse, I promised that when my children were born, they would not experience what I had.<br /><br />Twenty-one years later I am happy to say I have kept that promise and thereby broke the cycle of violence.<br /><br />However there are still the scars I bear. I have been forever changed. I am 60 now and 25 years ago I realized for the first time that what happened all those years was not my fault.<br /><br />It took several more years before I was able to let others in on my secrete. Once I did, I started on the road to recovery.<br /><br />Thank you for your post.<br />EgmontThe Artist Within Ushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08081658641380811738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-89178278320962418722009-10-02T22:52:37.313-07:002009-10-02T22:52:37.313-07:00This is a beautifully balanced piece and as a form...This is a beautifully balanced piece and as a former rhetorician, I know a bit of what I speak. I applaud Ms. Anders' eloquence, logic, creativity and humanity in separating both men from their art, despite our own yearnings for genius and all it implies. <br /><br />As another reader so poignantly noted, "I know many Jews cannot separate Wagner from Hitler because of the Holocaust." <br /><br />We humans are frail creatures who will argue to the death in favor of the wrong so that we might forgive, forget and feel better about ourselves. It is difficult and wearying to fight for the greater good, but our own humanity demands as much. Thank you and Ms. Anders for some well needed enlightenment on this troublesome topic.Errant Aesthetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618929624889945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-58705446548971321582009-10-02T22:27:52.615-07:002009-10-02T22:27:52.615-07:00another "thankyou" post, to both allison...another "thankyou" post, to both allison & misswhistle for hosting your words. . .<br /><br />as a fan of your films, allison, and a huge fan of movies in general, it is so important to me that you have bucked the trend and spoken out. . . this week has been so dis-illusioning, as filmmakers and actors I have loved for decades turn up on polanski's support list. . . <br /><br />I'm old enough to remember when this all went down in the 70's - and I've never watched anything he has had a hand in since, despite his reverence in the cinematic community. . . (same with woody allen, who I also admired prior to his latter choices). . . <br /><br />for me, movies are a place to lose oneself in the magic of the story onscreen - and my mind won't allow me to feel lost anywhere that doesn't also feel "safe". . . <br /><br />I'd also like to comment regarding the wishes of the woman who survived this rape as a child. . .given that she was never going to get "justice" and polanski's lawyers were on record as saying they intended to take her apart on the witness stand (as was the norm then, vicious character slandering - which would have no doubt involved her mother as well), it's hardly surprising that she doesn't want this continually dragged through the media, that she "forgives" him, or that she received a "settlement" as the only amends available to her. . . I too echo others who don't wish to cause her any more anguish. . .<br /><br />however, it needs to be remembered that it was polanski's decades of AVOIDANCE that has maintained her limbo - the responsibility resides with HIM - HE was the one who the culture sided with THEN, while HER needs for justice were sacrificed to the "art" of a male director who was held as more important than a young girl. . .<br /><br />and I sincerely hope that the voices raised in support for her NOW can begin to redress the silence she has had to endure these years. . .those of us who survive abuse know that finding the supportive community of others who SHARE your experiences can assist in a deeper healing of past trauma.<br /><br />again, thanks to all the voices here who understand from the heart.barbaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-71792336021168224802009-10-02T19:45:46.369-07:002009-10-02T19:45:46.369-07:00Dear Allison Anders,
I want to tell you that I ha...Dear Allison Anders,<br /><br />I want to tell you that I have always admired your films. I want to say that they mean something to me, that they have made me cry with emotion, and that still years later I hold them very dear.<br /><br />I want to thank you so much for this blog post. Reading this is a clear reminder of how the people in the media industry petitioning to free Polanski from extradition are sending a devastating message to survivors of sexual abuse. <br /><br />I found a blog (http://notonhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/09/dear-pedro-almodovar.html) in which people are posting open letters to writers and directors who are publicly asking that Polanski not be held accountable for the rape of a 13 year old girl. Some of the letters are angry, some quite heartfelt, all feel very human to me. <br /><br />I wrote my own comment to the blog. I want to share it with you, so you know how much I truly appreciate and hold on to your voice right now. Here: http://notonhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/09/dear-pedro-almodovar.html?showComment=1254519211408#c951858953656462600 <br /><br />Allison, I thank you very much for your thoughts, so beautifully written, and for your gorgeous soul.<br /><br />Very Truly Yours,<br /><br />JeanineJeaninenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-57863562655591129892009-10-02T19:44:12.917-07:002009-10-02T19:44:12.917-07:00@LaneHat
Very well stated!@LaneHat<br /><br />Very well stated!Yvonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01736835253366530292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-12040258388670170172009-10-02T19:31:40.778-07:002009-10-02T19:31:40.778-07:00Thank you all so much for your responses and to my...Thank you all so much for your responses and to my dear Miss Whistle for publishing it. I have to tell you all that this was one time I was so clear about how I felt. There is such a balancing act also with the victim's wishes -- on the one hand I am sensitive to her further suffering by this all being dragged out again and no doubt her forgiveness and wishes to have it all dropped are something to consider. But inevitably -- as part of the healing process -- we hopefully arrive at forgiveness, but that doesn't mean it should be excused. And I worry that victim's are often putting the rest of us at risk by making deals and dropping charges. I know a victim of a powerful man who dropped rape charges and made a monetary settlement. While it made her feel a little better, I think in the end, everyone suffers when this happens. So I'm torn in how I feel about a victim's right to not bring charges -- I mean I guess yes they should have the right, but I wish they wouldn't use it so that perpetrators pay for their crime. <br /><br />Anyway -- I thank you all very much for your responses. It's been wonderful to connect on a subject very important to me.<br /><br />And much you to you Miss Whistle!<br />xo<br /><br />AAAllison Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05220013453173853782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-32669048390874337692009-10-02T17:33:31.949-07:002009-10-02T17:33:31.949-07:00Thank you. Well said.Thank you. Well said.Blair K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14157417541423495396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-63308280047365435002009-10-02T15:45:46.341-07:002009-10-02T15:45:46.341-07:00Thank you for writing this brave and lucid essay.Thank you for writing this brave and lucid essay.Sing Clementinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329996468611442141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371572.post-38261033757378001892009-10-02T14:07:46.935-07:002009-10-02T14:07:46.935-07:00@simon:
"Let us also ask ourselves to what en...@simon:<br />"Let us also ask ourselves to what end does punishment serve since it neither undoes the crime that was committed or create sufficient deterrent in the first place and more importantly it doesn't provide any compensation for the victim."<br /><br />First, I'm not sure I understand what you mean that punishing Polanski doesn't create a sufficient deterrent. To me, this arrest could serve as a powerful deterrent. It says that no matter how long it takes, who your friends are, how famous or talented you might be, if you rape a child we will find and punish you. Honestly, what else do you want in an effective deterrent for child rape?<br />Second, compensation for the victim is not the issue in a criminal case. The viction here has already won financial compensation from Polanski in a separate civil action. With all due respect and sympathy to the victim (and she's due A LOT of sympathy, and respect for having moved on her life), a criminal case is not solely about the harm done to the victim; it's about the harm done to the people, to our community. Polanski has not paid for the harm he did to all of us, the harm of being a child rapist free to roam the world and live without punishment,to serve as an example of someone thumbing his nose at our justice system. <br /><br />My response when I heard Polanski had been arrested was "It's about damn time!"LaneHathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07855240620859861641noreply@blogger.com